America’s Most Violent Cities
Forbes has released a new report on America’s most dangerous cities. This list differs slightly from prior compilations mainly because of the very specific criteria used. For example, New Orleans, Washington D.C., and Detroit have historically traded places over the years as the murder capital of America. But, it looks as if Washington D.C. wasn’t even considered here, and neither were places like Gary, Indiana, Atlanta, GA, Compton, CA, Newark, NJ, St. Louis, MO, or Camden, NJ.
The study used a technical evaluation of U.S. Metropolitan Statistical Areas, which apparently doesn’t always fit with what we think of as cities, but sometimes merely counties or zip codes etc. If you look at per capita numbers by city though, some of these others will surely be near the top of the list. This is obviously because their population is comprised mostly of Blacks. Regardless of the study methods used, one comprehensive fact remains - every one of these cities has a significant non-White population. By clicking on the “Color of Crime” graphic to the right, you will be able to examine the correlation between race and violent crime. Furthermore, the report points out that the top 10 cities on this list are “transit points for Mexican drug cartels.” I find this comment pretty hard to believe though, because I’ve constantly been told by the media that Hispanics only come here to “do the jobs Americans won’t do.” I guess that includes murder as well.
Detroit is the worst offender on our list of America’s most dangerous cities, thanks to a staggering rate of 1,220 violent crimes committed per 100,000 people.
“Detroit has, historically, been one of the more violent cities in the U.S.,” says Megan Wolfram, an analyst at iJet Intelligent Risk Systems.”
“Detroit was followed closely on the list by the greater Memphis, Tenn., and Miami, Fla., metropolitan areas. Those three were the only large cities in America with more than 950 violent crimes committed per 100,000 people.
Behind the Numbers
To determine our list, we used violent crime statistics from the FBI’s latest uniform crime report, issued in 2008. The violent crime category is composed of four offenses: murder and non-negligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery and aggravated assault.”
the cities atop our list illustrate a disturbing trend: All 10 of the most dangerous cities were among those identified by the Department of Justice as transit points for Mexican drug cartels.
Run by crime lords like Joaquin Guzman Lorea, these gangs–and their violent turf wars–are spreading into the American Southwest and beyond. Places like Stockton, Calif., nearly 500 miles from Tijuana, have seen an uptick in related violent crime.
“Stockton is a major transit point along the I-5 corridor on the way to Seattle and Vancouver,” says Wolfram. “A lot of it is similar to crime happening in the Southwest. For the most part, it’s drug gang on drug gang.”
Motown Blues
The situation in Mexico has escalated in recent years, but Detroit has been dealing with the same problems for decades.
Top 15 Most Dangerous Cities:
No. 1 Detroit, Mich.
Races in Detroit:
- Black (81.6%)
- White Non-Hispanic (10.5%)
- Hispanic (5.0%)
- Other race (2.5%)
- Two or more races (2.3%)
- American Indian (0.9%)
No. 2 Memphis, Tenn.
Races in Memphis:
- Black (61.4%)
- White Non-Hispanic (33.3%)
- Hispanic (3.0%)
- Other race (1.5%)
- Two or more races (1.0%)
No. 3. Miami, Fla.
Races in Miami:
- Hispanic (65.8%)
- Black (22.3%)
- White Non-Hispanic (11.8%)
- Other race (5.4%)
- Two or more races (4.7%)
- American Indian (0.5%)
No. 4 Las Vegas, Nev.
Races in Las Vegas:
- White Non-Hispanic (55.2%)
- Hispanic (24.9%)
- Black (10.4%)
- Other race (9.7%)
- Two or more races (4.1%)
- Filipino (2.3%)
- American Indian (1.5%)
- Chinese (0.6%)
- Other Asian (0.6%)
- Japanese (0.5%)
No. 5 Stockton, Calif.
Races in Stockton:
- Hispanic (32.5%)
- White Non-Hispanic (32.2%)
- Other race (17.3%)
- Black (11.2%)
- Other Asian (7.9%)
- Two or more races (6.8%)
- Filipino (6.2%)
- American Indian (2.3%)
- Vietnamese (2.2%)
- Chinese (1.8%)
- Asian Indian (0.9%)
- Japanese (0.6%)
No. 6 Orlando, Fl
Races in Orlando:
- White Non-Hispanic (50.8%)
- Black (26.9%)
- Hispanic (17.5%)
- Other race (5.4%)
- Two or more races (3.5%)
- American Indian (0.7%)
- Asian Indian (0.7%)
No. 7 Little Rock, AR
Races in Little Rock:
- White Non-Hispanic (54.0%)
- Black (40.4%)
- Hispanic (2.7%)
- Other race (1.3%)
- Two or more races (1.3%)
- American Indian (0.7%)
No. 8 Charleston, SC
Races in Charleston:
- White Non-Hispanic (62.3%)
- Black (34.0%)
- Hispanic (1.5%)
- Two or more races (0.9%)
- Other race (0.5%)
No. 9 Nashville, TN
Races in Nashville-Davidson:
- White Non-Hispanic (64.0%)
- Black (26.8%)
- Hispanic (4.7%)
- Other race (2.5%)
- Two or more races (2.0%)
- American Indian (0.7%)
- Other Asian (0.6%)
No. 10 Baltimore, MD
Races in Baltimore:
- Black (64.3%)
- White Non-Hispanic (31.0%)
- Hispanic (1.7%)
- Two or more races (1.5%)
- American Indian (0.8%)
- Other race (0.7%)
No. 11 New Orleans, LA
Races in New Orleans:
- Black (67.3%)
- White Non-Hispanic (26.6%)
- Hispanic (3.1%)
- Vietnamese (1.5%)
- Two or more races (1.3%)
- Other race (0.9%)
- American Indian (0.5%)
No. 12 Baton Rouge, LA
Races in Baton Rouge:
- Black (50.0%)
- White Non-Hispanic (44.7%)
- Hispanic (1.7%)
- Vietnamese (1.2%)
- Two or more races (1.0%)
- Chinese (0.6%)
No. 13 West Palm Beach, FL
Races in West Palm Beach:
- White Non-Hispanic (46.0%)
- Black (32.2%)
- Hispanic (18.2%)
- Other race (4.3%)
- Two or more races (3.4%)
- American Indian (0.8%)
No. 14 Charlotte, NC
Races in Charlotte:
- White Non-Hispanic (55.1%)
- Black (32.7%)
- Hispanic (7.4%)
- Other race (3.6%)
- Two or more races (1.7%)
- Asian Indian (0.9%)
- Vietnamese (0.8%)
- American Indian (0.7%)
- Other Asian (0.7%)
No. 15 Philadelphia, PA
Races in Philadelphia:
- Black (43.2%)
- White Non-Hispanic (42.5%)
- Hispanic (8.5%)
- Other race (4.8%)
- Two or more races (2.2%)
- Chinese (1.2%)
- Other Asian (0.9%)
- Asian Indian (0.8%)
- Vietnamese (0.8%)
- American Indian (0.7%)
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it seems like black and white people are the most violent acording to the stats
Actually Blacks are the most violent followed by Hispanics. As you can see, each of these cities either has an above average percentage of Blacks or Hispanics. Plus, from reading the article, they also point out that there has been a large increase in violence from Mexican drug cartels, and these top cities have become strongholds for these cartels.
Whites have a much lower crime rate than either of these groups, as indicated by government per capita statistics. The stats in the above article only shows the entire population breakdown of the city, not crime by race. However, Whites are still the majority in the USA, so each of these cities will still have a decent number of whites living in it. It is quite eye opening that Blacks and Hispanics don’t even have to be half of a city’s population in order to skyrocket the crime rate.
If you click on the picture above entitled “The Color of Crime,” you will be able to see the crime stats broken down by race. It will become obvious to you that Whites have by far the lower crime rate. This simple fact is evident when looking at cities that are almost 100% White; they will have very low crime rates. The safest places in the country will be areas that are almost 100% White.
Here are two papers to read if you would like to see the official government statistical breakdown of crime by race:
The Color of Crime:
http://www.colorofcrime.com/colorofcrime2005.pdf
Hispanics: A Statistical Portrait:
http://www.amren.com/features/hispanics/
I ran across this article in my hunt for real estate, weird, I know, but I think I should really comment on this. These statistics are not meant to state that blacks, hispanics, or any other minorities are violent, murderous beings. I think it is meant to prove that they lack resources such as proper education, job opportunities, money, adequate housing, fathers, role models, mentors, etc; compared to their white counterparts. I think that such statistics should be used effectively in targeting these low income populations and helping them get to the place where the other Americans (whites) are at. I thought it to be totally disturbing that someone would make a comment or even an inference to the fact that crime has a color. I believe that whites, blacks, hispanics, or whoever, all have some people who may do things that are deviant and ignorant, but for the most part, we should look at the fact that the blacks, with little resources, are going to jail and are sometimes forced into a criminal life style while whites can buy their way out of the system with a slap on the wrist. I think that statistics are bias and they can not possibly consider all of the things stated above. The only thing that these statistics prove is that America is still not equal, and that we as Americans (not a specific color) still have a long way to go!
Hey Janice,
Ever heard of the Great Society. You’re a brain dead moron.
I’m sorry but I have to agree with (badgerbob) as much as I’d hate to. Although economic issues have alot to do with why people behave the way they do, there is one fact that remains. People do what the WANT to do. If you want to excell in life there are so many avenues to get “yourself” out of a slum lifestyle. Federal loans for education for one, not to mention programs that promote skills and training for taking care of yourself and your family. Nobody is owed a thing. Stop picking at old scabs, make your own way, and look back on your own progress.
im white come from the hood dont commit crimes just work my cracker ass off and see liberal morons and 95% of blacks excuse criminal behavior with socialogical bullshit. keep voting democratic theyll keep you in slavery by giving you everything you havent worked for. its not like there arent any jobs for blacks,like president you asshole. blacks , not all, believe they have the right to commit crimes, whites, not all, dont. but the vast majority of crime is committed by blacks who continue to fuck up the great accomplishments of american culture, like cities.just keep using the excuses and gag the white lberals whove never lived a hard day in their life. they cry for you as you murder and rape until it happens to them. boo hoo.
All of this black crime was entirely forseeable! Public officials were talking about it in the 1950’s, when it was bad, but nowhere near today’s levels. By the outbreak of WWII, it had long since become clear that blacks had encroached on whites and their property in northern cities. Harlem, in New York City, is a prime example. So was Prarie Avenue in Chicago, where in barely over a decade, the mansions of millionaires became the boarding houses of poor blacks.
Simply stated, blacks are numerically far ahead of the curve, and developmentally, far behind the curve. All the tens of billions of tax dllars, paid in the main by white Americans, have not elevated social conditions in black communties, simply because so many blacks are supernumerary.
Consider this analogy: There is a forest. There’s enough food and water in the forest for many different species of animals to live together. There are several hundred deer. People feel attached to the deer because of movies (Civil rights activism) like “Bambi”, so they leave out more food (Welfare, etc) for the deer than for the other animals. Pretty soon there are three hundred, then four hundred deer. There is not as much food and water as before. Some of the animals leave the forest, but life is still OK. Soon there are five hundred, six hundred, seven hundred deer.
Now the large number of deer reduces the amount of food for the other species. Vegatation is eaten down to ground level in some parts of the forest. Birds disappear because the trees in which they lived have died because the deer have eaten the bark off the trucks. There are so many deer that the other animals have a hard time finding water to drink. But the deer, still a big tourist (liberal) attraction, keep reproducing. now there are a thousand, then twelve hundred, then fifteen hundred deer! Now almost all the other animals are gone from the forest. Food and water are in short supply. Most of the trees have died because their bark has been eaten by the deer.
The social patterns of the deer have changed. One fairly peaceful, they have become agressive toward each other and towards the other animals. Although the deer have little food, and are malnourished and sickly, they keep multiplying.
Substitute “blacks” for “deer”, and “city” for “forest”, and you have the entire story of urban blight in America since WWII!
After WWII, every single welfare office and every public housing complex in black and other non-white areas should have had a Planned Parenthood clinic on the ground floor! You won’t limit the size of your family? No public housing! No welfare payments! No medical care! No food! Problem solved!
I love the clowns who say “I’m pro-life!” Does not the USA have the “right to Life” as the european nation given to us by our ancestors? What would Washington, Jefferson, Madison, and Franklin say if they saw the slums of present day Philadelphia, New York, Baltimore and Washington?
Me personally i think the crime statistics shouldn’t judge the race…..All races haven’t violent sides. I personally think that races need more religious affiliations and more civilized manners. I am Black and I don’t consider the Black race, just misunderstood. All RACes are violent.The only thing we can do it pray to our Heavenly Father.
Love Donta
H.B.T.
HeavenBoundTruly, you can pray all you want, but that will not stop your Black brothers from raping 40,000 White women in the United States every year:
http://www.davidduke.com/general/the-truth-of-interracial-rape-in-the-united-states_2111.html
Wherever they are in the world, they are violent, lazy, irresponsible. American cities share the same fate as South Africa and other parts of the world - civilized, respectful white communities are attacked by poor, lazy, violent minorities. Even when these blacks acheive some sort of success (most often through a rap or sports contract) they continue to live the same hedonistic, violent lifestyle (e.g. Michael Vick). Blacks blame everyone else for their problems to the point that all reality is lost (e.g. black conspiracy theories about New Orleans and Hurrican Katrina and even, especialy, 911 victims where mostly white people died). The real funny thing is how they complain about not being able to get jobs, yet given the state of illegal immigration, it is amazing that more people can come here illegally and find more work than our natural born citizens who live in the hood. End welfare. Legalize pot. Jail murderers and rapists. Insitute hard labor for theives. They will either survive or die.
So, whats the solution to the problem? How can we influence certain people to be good and take advantage of all the great american opportunities? I mean you have job corp provided free from the state if you failed high school; you can learn a decent trade, you can even become a nurse through job corp. If your poor and want to go to college, you have finicial aid that can hook you up for nothing. Theres so many things you can do.
I believe its the influence of gangs and the music thats put out these days. I saw this little white kid the other day getting down to some gang banging ganster rap (he had to be like 9 or so). We need more leaders and role models to help kids in rough neighborhoods to change and break the cycle. We got to get to the source.
These comments are too funny; you guys have made my hour entertaining. Stats do make sense though, Detroit I figured would be the worst, due to its poperty level, low income, and housing market. Nashville, TN and Charlotte, NC, were suprises to me, I did not think that these cities could beat out DC, or L.A. CA or Oakland. The crime is high in the cities listed due to the fact that there are a lot of young people, who have no care in the world just them. Young people these days have no respect for society they have no limits, and take everything as a joke. It does not matter what race they are its just kids being kids. Look at how Obama got elected, kids that look at life as not being important, and that want freedom to do whatever they want from abortions to free health insurance, and want it for nothing.
this is why people in the past didn’t want black people moving into their neighborhoods. they knew that the more blacks that moved in, the more their property values would go down until the neighborhood was lost in the mire of black crime. black people don’t seem to want to take care of what they have and let their houses go. they also don’t seem to want to work for what they need…no, they’d rather steal it from their neighbors. (ask chris rock.) it doesn’t take a long time for this to happen either. i’ve seen it happen in my grandmother’s old neighborhood outside of philly. it used to be a nice neighborhood full of older italian-americans and younger families with children. as the older italian-americans started to pass away and their houses needed to be sold, the blacks started moving in. when the blacks started moving in, the young white families started moving out…until the entire neighborhood was filled with black people. i saw this happen in a period of 10 years. you used to be able to walk down the street and feel safe. now i don’t even want to go near that street. the blacks hang out on the corners doing god knows what…probably selling drugs. they stare at you like you don’t belong and make you feel so uncomfortable and unsafe. it’s so sad that things are this way. too bad it’s illegal to keep black people from infesting neighborhoods the way they do. and you know what else? i hate having these feelings about black people, but they make it very hard not to feel this way…
Hmmm very good stats. I live in Detroit I think I will consider moving to a more safe community.
Hey Guys, let’s not forget Jacksonville, FL!!! It currently ranks as THE MURDER CAPITAL OF FLORIDA!!! It’s nick name is MURDA-VILLE!!!
Of the Entire Population in the City of Jacksonville, 45% of its Citizens have Criminal Records!!! Of that 45%, 20% of them are Convicted Felons!!!
Number One in the State of Florida in HIV/AIDS cases!!!
Ranked in the Top Fourth, of all cities in the NATION for DUI Arrests, Fatal Crashes due to Intoxication, and More Deaths from Alcohol & Drug Related Liver Diseases!!!
Number One in the State of Florida for Truancy!!!
80% of the Adult Black Population are Functional Illiterates!!! With 40% of the Adult Black Population who Don’t Read, and the other 40% of the Adult Black Population who, Can’t Read!!! Of the 20% of the Adult Black Population who CAN or DO Read, 5% of them are Reading on a Comprehension Level of a 6th Grader or Lower!!!
Of all 50 States in the USA, the State of Florida’s Educational System ranks at Number 50!!!
Voted Four Years ago as, One of the Worst Cities in the NATION, to be Single and Black In!!!
Voted Last Year (2008) as, One of the Worst Cities in the NATION, to be Single In, PERIOD!!!
Highest Divorce Rate in the State of Florida!!!
Highest Foreclosure Rate in the State of Florida!!!
The City of Jacksonville has a Professional Football Team called The Jacksonville Jaguars. They have more Blacked Out Games on TV than any other Football Team in the NFL, due to LOW TICKET SALES!!! Because of this fact, The City of Jacksonville, almost LOST IT’S FOOTBALL TEAM!!! It was almost bought by Billionare C. Dean Metropoulos in 2008, who wanted to move the team to LOS ANGELES, CA!!!
On September 15, 2009, The County of Duval raised Property Taxes for all Property Owners for an additional $29.00 per Owner. This totals to the amount of $14,000,000!!! This means that there are 482,760 areas of Property in Duval County that need to be charged Property Tax. Some Property Owners will feel the increase more than others because; they own MORE THAN ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY!!!
43% of All Businesses in The City of Jacksonville are SHUT DOWN!!! There is a growing epidemic of empty Office Buildings, Office Spaces, and Warehouses that have signs in front of them that say: BUILDING FOR SALE/LEASE, OFFICE SPACE FOR SALE/LEASE, OR WAREHOUSE FOR SALE/LEASE!!!
The State of Florida’s Unemployment Average is currently 10.5%, as compared to the National Average of 9.4%!!! According to the State of Florida’s Agency for Workforce Innovation/Unemployment Compensation Program in Tallahassee, they are currently accommodating 50,000 Claims Per Day!!! Due to such High Levels of Unemployment Claims, office hours have been extended: Monday – Friday 7:30am – 7:00pm, & Saturday 8:00 – 4:00pm!!!
Recently (March 2, 2009) voted as One of the Most Depressing Cities in the NATION, contributing to the Increased Number of people with Spiritual, and/or Psychological Disorders, along with the Increasing Homeless Population!!!
On August 17, 2009, The Department of Census for The State of Florida showed that the Statewide Population is at IT’S LOWEST SINCE 1946!!! Due to the fact that people are not moving to Florida as they were 20 years ago, and because of the fact that people are leaving The State of Florida for the ABOVE MENTIONED REASONS, with JACKSONVILLE IN PARTICULAR!!!
People can argue all they want about woeful economic conditions, failure of society to provide “means” for the poor to achieve more or for government to pave the way for the less fortunate. All I can tell you is that I am a middle aged white businessman who grew up in a shithole in Pittsburgh, who’s parents died young and lived in a home where there was a chain and lock on the refrigerator so no one could eat except at delegated times. I elected to move away, work through college, take chances and put the past behind me. People, of any color, have more opportunities in this country than any place on earth in any time in history. Make all the excuses you want…..it’s BS.
It’s amazing how people will graviate to the the parts of an article most important to them, well now here I go. I’m very pleased to see that D.C.’s crime rate has fallen to the point that it wasn’t on the list. This is just another instance where the true meaning of the second ammendment has been proven. For years citizens of our nations capitol were denied the right to legally bear arms, but because of a court decision last year, this right has been restored and we now see the results.
Shows blacks and whites to be most violent because they can’t count illegals only citizens. So if the illegals were counted the stats would be different.
It says according to the LA Times Article below that Oakland is more violent than Stockton on a per capita basis and this is as of June 2009. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/06/most-california-cities-saw-crime-drop-but-there-were-exceptions.html
Listen,
In the U.S., we have two types of “African American” people…Black people, and niggers. Black people work hard for their money and contribute to society like every normal civilian should. Niggers are people who are parasites to the federal system and reap the benefits of free government money while, in the mean time, committing crime to support drug/gambling/drinking/any other deviant behaviors. NIGGERS take, take, take, and sincerely believe they have the right to take whatever they want. NIGGERS are parasitic organisms that just happen to be humans who are black. The same holds true for white people/white trash, hispanic people/’spics’, etc. It just so happens that the ratio of parasites to normal citizens is much greater in the country’s black and hispanic populations than in the white population. The problem exists in that as the parasites reproduce, their numbers grow at an exponential rate because their lifestyle is being taught to each new generation of their offspring. Why would a young teen born into a parasitic family want to stay in school or get a real job when he sees how fast he can make a few hundred dollars selling crack, or committing burglary or robbery???
THESE are the sociological questions that need answers, and these are the problems that need to be dealt with by the federal government, because dumping people into prisons, or throwing wellfare checks at them is not helping. By no means am I a racist person. I use the words nigger, spic, and white trash loosely in my descriptions of the lower forms of human that come from each race, and YOU are WRONG if you dispute otherwise. There is no dispute that each race suffers its weak links, and as a country we need to eliminate the weak links in order to achieve a social balance. Assuming every black person is a criminal, or assuming ever white person is a racist is just cause to add the assuming person in to the parasite category.
Mr. REAL HARD BLACK, I live 10 minutes from Camden NJ. I have seen the ‘ghetto’ and the ‘hood’ you speak of, on almost a daily basis. It fails to change my opinion on the matter. Would I want to get stuck there over night? No because I would most likely be preyed upon by the drug addicts who rob and steal to support their habits. Does that make me a pussy or a racist? No, it makes me a realist…because you are right, a person like me could not survive in the ‘hood’ because of my beliefs and honest nature. The ‘hood’ is an infestation, a breeding ground for crime. Much like Darwin’s theories, those living there have adapted to the environment through illegal activity. And like in nature, introducing outside life forms to that environment would surely mean their peril. SO either remain a parasite or evolve in to a human, if you so choose to evolve…I would suggest taking a course on grammar. I am no Webster, but either you intentionally write like a jackass, or you have the education of a 10 year old taught English on AIM.
THEY SAY THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING.
NAME ONE INSTANCE, ONE TIME WHERE A NEIGHBORHOOD WENT FROM WHITE TO BALCK AND IT BECAME A BETTER NEIGHBORHOOD. JUST ONE INSTANCE. YOU TAKE A GOOD AREA AND MAKE IT WORSE, BUISNESS LEAVES, HOUSES BOARDED UP, AND CRIME SOARS, NEVER, NOT ONCE IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND, IN THE WHOLE WORLD, HAVE THEY EVER MADE IT BETTER
I’m surprised that Gary, Indiana isn’t on the list!!!!
LoL…..
I think the story about the forest was a great analogy,it dosent get more clear than that.Im white,lived in Detroit 4 15 years,and I have some sympathy for the good people who have no choice but to be stuck in the middle.But for most Blacks in these areas they are happy being the way they are.The vast majority are just a waste of fuckin skin.We need a race war to filter out some of the SHIT.
tj, read Major Findings on Page One of the Color of Crime.
Black families have failed miserably.
Where are the Black Community Leaders??? Off spending their fortunes made on black youths.
When will we as a Race take responsibility for our actions? This is NOT MY CULTURE!
I notice how these blacks and niggas on here don’t like to hear the truth. Plus these dumb MF’ers can’t spell either. They are ignorant and stupid because they chose to be that way. There’s a black man in the White House now and that’s the best thing to ever happen to the white race. Now, these lazy ass, criminal thugs from da hood have no excuse for all their crime and stupidity.
And to the dumb white bitches on here like Janice, saying that they “lack resources such as proper education, job opportunities, money, etc;”, you are more ignorant than the blacks. There are more opportunities for them than for whites. They choose NOT to take advantage of the opportunities. Get a clue dumbass.
An awful lot of folks on this board are missing a very key element of the problem:
White Liberals.
White people with a left-leaning political bent are chiefly responsible for the inability of Blacks to pull themselves up and rid their own communities of the addiction of the welfare state, as introduced by Lyndon Johnson.
White liberals in the poltical sphere of influence have made it difficult, if not impossible for many Blacks to escape the welfare trap.
White liberals gain power & influence by perpetuating the welfare state on Blacks and hence, securing their ill-gotten voting base.
White liberals would never wish for the Black community as a whole to become self-reliant, because that would be instant suicide for the myriad social programs in place that employ and hence, put food on the White liberal’s table.
White liberals gain from societal unrest bred by racial strife that they instigate, foment and encourage by the twisted moral logic they practice.
White liberals - a Marxist’s best friend.
Reading these comments has been very entertaining as well as disturbing. I am a 45 yr old white male living in the 2nd most violent city in America, Memphis, TN. I was born and raised here. I have seen a once great city become a racially polarized shell of its former self. I utterly despise this city, but unfortunately am unable to relocate at the present time. Everything in the city revolves around race. Our mayor, who just retired, praise God, was black and one of the worst racists our city has ever put in that office. It was the black vote that put him there and kept him there for 14 YEARS. Willie Herenton has destroyed this city and made it a mockery of a national level and he is a hero to the black community here. I have returned to college to further my education and for the past 2 years have been attending a “black” college. Never go to Remington College in Memphis if you are white. Even some of the instructors base everything along racial guidelines. One of these so-called educators thinks she needs to make a point about being black and educated at every turn. This person stood up before the student body to read a poem about the history of being black in America and how proud she is to be black. I’m I had stood up and made a statement about how glad I am to be white; I would have been branded a racist. I’m sorry, white people just don’t think about it like that. It seems like white people have another concept of professionalism. Most of us use correct grammar and dress appropriately. We simply accept it, move along, and don’t feel the need to make a point about it. We hold ourselves to higher standards and simply expect others to as well. I don’t really care what anyone thinks about this, I am educated, white, male, and proud of it.
i grew up in a normal middle class neighborhood. but my best friend who is white….grew up in the ghettos of atlanta. so all the black guys talking about how we white people dont understand….guess what….i do…and all this crap your talking about how its our fault…no its not. i have seen some amazing people rise up our of the ghetto and be great. so if your stuck there bitching…guess what it IS your fault. not ours. you screwed up somewhere and didnt have the balls to admit you fucked up. i have alot of black friends and guess what….they dont sit here and bitch about how the white man is holding them back….you sound like a broken record. its a lame excuse….so find another one.
Interesting how when the number of White Non-Hispanic is low in a city, the more dangerous it is!?!?!
I feel sure that there is no relationship though.
Why just look at comments left by … REAL HARD BLACK … I’m sure that he is one of the smarter, most honest, hard working persons inside there culture.
Hey Real Hard Black,
You and your element of downtrodden soldiers with no real cause ,are the reason many of us in the suburbs carry a gun and maybe have a couple rifles in the house. You loot , we shoot !!!
Hey CCrider, then tell me why the hell the Blacks keep voting them in???? Everyone here should read the history of Harlem, it was first settled in 1634 or 1638 or something, then abandoned due to hostile Indians, then re-established in 1657 or so. It used to be a thriving, wealthy area, then hard times hit, blacks eventually moved in in the early 1880’s or so and it’s been a shithole ever since. Not only that but millions and millions of tax dollars (mostly white) have been funneled into it for education, health care, housing, etc, to no avail!!! You cannot help people that refuse to help themselves.
Most of Harlem is owned by Black crooks and so called “churches” who happily steal the money and oppress and thieve from the poor Blacks that live there, how ironic! Could it be that they are their own worst enemy! I am a Christian and honestly want to see all races happy, healthy, HONEST, hardworking, thriving and growing. But why is it that Blacks in every nation in the world have the most problems??? Is it truly the fault of white Americans, is it??? Do we have such magical powers to cause them to constantly behave in ways that make their own lives perpetually miserable??? Have we cast a spell on them, making it so they will always be the poor, pitiable people with their hand forever out?? Or, and here is a radical thought, stay with me now. What if Blacks take a look in the mirror and say maybe, just maybe it’s US!!!
We are a lower middle class family, we have worked very hard our entire lives and try to help others by sharing what we have. I have never gone to college but I try to learn new things all the time, I try to spell correctly, use proper grammar and speak intelligently. I homeschooled both my children from the 3rd grade all the way through highschool and they are straight A students and attending college. My husband and I taught them to be honest, to work hard, and we made them work as children, from doing alot of chores at home to working at outside jobs. We gave them everything they needed emotionally, spiritually, physically and mentally. We loved and cherished them and made them understand that life is hard and often times very unfair, but regardless they were still to do right and work hard.
I did not grow up poor in the sense that I was ever hungry but we didn’t have much. My dad was a flake and seldom around, he didn’t pay child support, and I had some very bad things happen to me. I was sexually, physically, verbally and emotionally abused as a child but I DID NOT use that as an excuse to turn into a loser that does those things to other people. So yes, bad things happen, life is hard and unfair and maybe to no fault of your own but that’s no excuse for being a loser. You can be dirt poor and still rich in what God has to offer, you can try to improve your own education and even help others as well. Christ was poor and He gave up His very life for all of humanity, the poor Widow with 2 pennies gave her all to God and yet these people whine and complain. There are freebies everywhere if you are poor, I make too much money to go to college and yet I cannot afford to go! Probably because my husbands hard earned tax dollars go to feed all these illegitimate kids, the free health care, and all the other free crap you whiners take for granted.
So, I am so over feeling sorry for Blacks or any other whining minority about how ‘we done you wrong’. Boo hoo! Why not head back to Africa, I bet you wouldn’t last a minute there! Besides I think they’d be ashamed of your beggarly, whining attitudes.
CCrider says:
October 27, 2009 at 7:35 pm
An awful lot of folks on this board are missing a very key element of the problem:
White Liberals.
White people with a left-leaning political bent are chiefly responsible for the inability of Blacks to pull themselves up and rid their own communities of the addiction of the welfare state, as introduced by Lyndon Johnson.
White liberals in the poltical sphere of influence have made it difficult, if not impossible for many Blacks to escape the welfare trap.
White liberals gain power & influence by perpetuating the welfare state on Blacks and hence, securing their ill-gotten voting base.
White liberals would never wish for the Black community as a whole to become self-reliant, because that would be instant suicide for the myriad social programs in place that employ and hence, put food on the White liberal’s table.
White liberals gain from societal unrest bred by racial strife that they instigate, foment and encourage by the twisted moral logic they practice.
White liberals - a Marxist’s best friend.
Incredible comments
White from jersey SPEAKS THE TRUTH.
(hey, what’s your email btw?)
I dont care whether you are white or black. i have met many white people that deserve a nice beheading, the same with black people. its not the color of your skin that determines how good you are, its your intelligence.
then again, the majority of black people are violent neanderthals. its pretty obvious that there is a problem with a particular group of people when they are placed within a population and almost instantly, the crime rate skyrockets. look at africa….its a war torn hell hole. then look at all the cities that have high concentrations of black people….they are also hell holes.
not only that, but why are blacks proud of being raised within poor communities? the poorer the person, the more respect they get from their friends?
its hard to trust a group of people that have caused such violence and chaos over the years. i used to think blacks were just stuck in poverty. but after the rodney king riots. i just realized they were inhumane animals. there are videos on the internet of blacks beating white women in the streets.
men are only supposed to fight men.
but i guess animals dont know that…
I’m from the north and I have been pounding the pavement for a job since I have been laid off. I worked all my life, now I can not even get a job!!! The big companies are hiring black people a dime a dozen. Those jobs that were held by whites are gone. It’s funny because i needed change at a walmart store and the blackman behind the register could not make change. He had to call his supervisor. These companies are getting 2 for the price of one and their education shows it. Talking fusration. Why bother going to school. WAKE UP WE ARE THE MINORITYS NOW!!!!
I agree; White from NJ has really captured the issues. One thing I would like to add however is that the crux of these problems stem from lack of a father figure. EVERY child needs a father figure in their lives just as much as they do a mother. Unfortunately, in the ghettos, the father figure is not present. The males procreate with multiple women and do not take ANY accountability for the children they help produce. So, the young males attach themselves to the older males, who are by that time involved in crime. To them, that is how they survive. And that pattern subsequently creates the problems that exist today.
So what do we do to solve this problem? Obviously, the first is stop the procreation. EVERYONE has an obligation to society, and must accept responsibility and accountability for their own actions. Those that procreate without that obligation need to understand the burden they put on society and the disadvantage they subject their offspring to. It is selfish behavior. And yes, I do agree that government-sponsored programs funded by taxpayer dollars only encourages this behavior. It makes people lazy and unaccountable.
Now I’m not saying to do away with these programs completely; there are some that are responsible and accountable, but by some misfortune ended up in a dire situation - like the loss of a bread-winning spouse - and need a helping hand. But for those who are irresponsible and unaccountable, they should be denied these social priviliges as well as the right to procreate. I am a God-fearing Christian and believe in the freedom to life. But I’m also a realist and believe a child deserves freedoms as well, but a child born into that environment is robbed of their freedom. They are put at a disadvantage from the outset with the odds stacked against them.
Rather than dump all this money into welfare or other social programs that encourage the problems, how about putting it towards programs that fix the problems? If you choose to bring children into this world but do not want to be accountable for their well-being, you should by moral law give up the right to procreate and be neutered or spayed - just like society does with animals. And for those children you already have and do not care for, they should be taken away and put into an environment where they are taught how to be socially responsible.
Mel Blount, former All Pro NFL cornerback for the Pittsburgh Steelers runs a youth home in SW PA. One would have to visit to understand the truly amazing job he does in turning around the lives of underpriviliged youths and giving them a chance. The youth are taught to be responsible and accountable; they are given structure and guidelines; they learn different skills; but most of all, they are taught tough love and are valued as part of their community.
Until our government has the balls to stop considering individual freedoms over the good of a society, and funding programs that enable the problem rather than fix it, this social issue will only worsen over time. What will it take for us to understand that a 10 year old robbing someone at gunpoint is a problem? Is our government willing to let this perpetuate until our great nation is turned into one of chaos and destruction - like we are witnessing in the Middle East? Its time to follow the principles of Social Morality - the good of society MUST be put above the good of any one individual.
Thanks for listening.
As a white woman, I am extremely tired of black men hitting on me wherever I go. Why can’t they stick to their own kind?
f*ck off, your a very smart woman to stay away from the race that carries the highest percentage of HIV/AIDS.
Far too many White women and White men have fallen prey to falling for the Multi-Culturay slobering love affair with Race Mixing only to find themselves, HIV Positive down the road in a few months!
Janice, I know the very last White Caucasian person to ever work for the Compton Unified School District.
This person had to work there for the last two years within the confines of the policies in order to qualify for their PERS retirement.
This person saw what happened each year with the funds to keep those schools repaired.
Each year all the fences were replaced only to have them completely torn down by the end of the very 1st week of each school year.
Urine was thrown off one of the upper floors by students that did not like a “too light skinned Black” teacher.
Trash cans were lit up into flames daily.
Food was wasted and thrown around daily.
Graffiti was painted over, weekly only to show up the very next day.
The main reason Black students enjoy “staying” ignorent is because it PAYS. That’s right. If a Black student goes to Social Security and applies for SSI checks (Supplemental Security Income) based on low grades, lack of reading and writing skills, lack of sufficient attendance, ill behavior or a tendency towards violence in school, they can start getting a Check from SSI for $907 in Kalifornia each month, no work required, no tax required.
This way also the Black student get’s to STAY on SSI checks for the rest of their lifetime.
This is WHY they do what they do. Many ENTIRE households ALL collect SSI checks. It pays really well in Kalifornia because of the Added Extra amount from the State of Kalifornia along with the Federal SSI amount. SSP-State Supplemental Payment is added to make it a whopping $907 per Individual within that household.
When Odingo legalizes the Illegals, they too will automatically be allowed to Apply & Qualify for SSI and SSP checks too!
Just think how wonderful it will be for these former illegals.
They will start getting paid to sit and watch Telemundo and Univision. They can get $1,569 per Couple in Kalifornia, or $907 per Individual. ALL their ENTIRE family will also get an automatic check as long as the “head of household” gets an SSI check. Add this up, it makes a pretty nice thick stack of checks.
Without any work, EVER, required. They can get checks for Anxiety from being a Meth Addict, Anxiety from being an Alcoholic, Anxiety or just plain cannot Speak English, that qualifies too. In Kalifornia, ANY ILLEGAL can already get SSI & SSP checks for being 65+ years old, it’s under a State of Kalifornia Program called, CAPI.
But, there will be nothing to stop these people, no barriers after ‘Shamnesty’. They can ALL go down and get onto SSI then.
Just think NOT A PENNY OF TAXES HAVE TO BE PAID BY SSI RECIPIENTS! None.
Oh, sure, those that worked and paid into the system called, SSDI did and do pay taxes, and retirees that worked 40+ years did and do pay taxes, but NOT SSI, they pay NO TAXES at all.
And at $1,569 per couple, that’s about $300 dollars MORE than an average Social Security retiree that worked and paid into the system for 40+ years and they still have to pay their taxes on their Social Security checks, but NOT SSI’s, nope, no taxes.
It’s interesting that the largest majority that collects SSI is African American Blacks.
Not only do SSI’s get a tax free cash check each month for life, they also get MediCAID as well, and pay NOTHING for any medicines, Doctor visits, operations, medical devices like electric wheelchairs, nothing for their pills/medications, nothing for hospital stays, nothing for convelescent hospitals, nothing for elder care, nothing for rest homes, they pay not a penny of MediCARE Premiums when they reach age 65 either.
Nope not like a ex-worker that worked for 40 plus years that has to PAY PREMIUMS at about $95 a month plus. SSI’s on MediCAID or MediCAL pay ZERO payments of any kind. They also get assistance with Heating and Air Conditioning, Auto Insurance discounts from Geiko, Odingo added massive funding to give every single low-income on SSI brand new Energy Star Appliances installed into where ever they live, $7,500 Vouchers for brand new Roofs, brand new Windows installed, brand new Insulation installed, low-income telephone assistance, low-income internet connection assistance, Auto Repair Grants for the 1st $500 in Smog Work on their cars, Free Bus Passes, Free Fishing Licenses, low-income into the Movie Theathers Nationally. And, let’s not forget, absolutely the highest in GRANTS for College.
In Kalifornia after the 1st 15 months of full-time college a Cal-Grant ‘Entitlement’ Grant ‘B’ to an SSI or child of an SSI gets $9,700 from the state of Kalifornia for the year and another $4,200 from the Federal Government for the year.
ALL the kiddies of a former Illegal will ALL get this money just for being the kiddie of an SSI!
The first 15 months ain’t so bad either. They get $1,551 from Kalifornia and still get the $4,200 from the Federal Government.
No student loans for these kiddies of SSI’s, they live quite confortable and drive lovely cars with their poor low-income CalGRANT ‘B’ Entitlement monies!
Colony14, can you give me a link to more information about those SSI checks? I found the site which explains it all, but it doesn’t go into the detail you did.. (http://www.ssa.gov/ssi/text-child-ussi.htm) That is crazy btw.. lazy ass people need to get off their asses and put their Neocortex to use.. it’s like they’re still in primitive survival Africa mode or something, wtf.
Wow. I stumbled on this by accident, but glad i did. It’s pretty obvious that everyone here understands that statistically blacks are more prone to crime than whites. You can call it economic misfortune, absent parenting, poor role models, or whatever excuse you want. Facts are facts. As long as the liberal media accepts this or sympathizes with it, nothing will ever get done and the problem continues.
I’m an engineer, not a sociology major, so i try to look at how to get the job done. The fact is, even though we all know the facts, any arguments that we make cannot address race if it’s to be taken serious by everyone. It always backfires. All the tea parties may have been taken serious, until race came up, and the liberal media jumped all over it. Any argument we make, can really be made by eliminating the racial designation, and make our point even better. If i say the area of Bert Rd in Jax, where i unfortunately resided for several years, needs cleaning up because of the black hookers, black drug dealers, black trash, liberals would call me rascist, and they’d probably request Govt money to clean up the area. However, by just wanting to get rid of the hookers, drug dealers, and trash, it becomes intelligent concern, not hateful prejudice. The other benefit in addition to taking away the liberal crying points, is that there are obviously blacks who do take pride in their lives and are positive role models for their children and others. Using race arguments alienates these people, and we need all the good people we can to fix the problems.
By simply differentiating good people vs. bad, eliminating every racial issue from minority scholarships and affirmative action, it may help actually get all the good people on board.
Just my $0.02.
The problem with the liberal is that they have been brainwashed into believing that if they just try a little harder they will eventually get it right.
I vacillate on whether or not they should be forgiven for their profound illiteracy and persistence in ignorance.
Given the state of Detroit, Chicago, Atlanta, D.C., etc., it would appear that David Livingstone’s and Albert Schweitzer’s words were prescient. But, rarely having read a book, I wouldn’t expect a liberal to know this.
“It must be difficult or rather impossible for Christians at home to realize anything like an accurate notion of the grossness which shrouds their minds . . . Their ideas are all earthly and it is with great difficulty that they can be brought to detach from sensual objects.” — David Livingstone.
“I have given my life to alleviate the sufferings of Africa. There is something that all White men who have lived here like I have must learn and know: that these individuals are a sub-race. They have neither the mental or emotional abilities to equate or share equally with White men in any functions of our civilization. I have given my life to try to bring unto them the advantages which our civilization must offer, but I have become well aware that we must retain this status: White the superior, and they the inferior. . . Never fraternize with them as equals. Never accept than as your social equals or they will devour you. They will destroy you.” — Albert Schweitzer (Nobel Peace Prize Laureate 1952), From My African Notebook (1961).
Blacks hate when the truth is told by one of their own they then call them uncle tom’s ect.with out the truth there will be no cure for this group of people.Maybe it would be easier to give them everything they want for free forever but with one rule they have to all live in the same state can’t leave.You watch and see they will continue to kill eachother and blame the rest of the world for their behavior.People can only be saved if they want to change and this group loves themselves and their way of live culture whatever .Look at other entirly black nations they are all the same no matter how much free aid ect they still kill it’s the race not the color of their skin.Even Mexicans hate to be called black which seems strange to me.this is a great board of truth.that’s why blacks get so mad when anyone of any color tell the truth and airs their dirty laundry.all persons who want to do better do the ones that don’t blame.
To Kevin Ballenger. Move if you don’t like it.
Why don’t these statistics include middle eastern ppl, i see alot of them!
The problem with the non-white segment has been very well described. The solution is wanting. What to do, what to do.
Solution 1: Put a six month limit on welfare. All welfare.
After the sixth month, welfare not to be re-allowed
for five calendar years. Allow use of deadly force
to disperse unruly mobs.
Solution 2: End general welfare. Allow employer funded
unemployment insurance. Fund soup kitchens, and
give bus tickets to Mexico.
Janet,
In crime statistics middle-Easterners along with Hispanics are classified as, wait for it…….WHITE! Think about that for a second and wonder how incredibly inflated then the white crime rate is. Funny huh?
All this talk about blacks and whites. I love it! Many of you ppl don’t live in Miami, FL so you don’t really know what Hispanics are capable of that’s why they get left out of the conversation. If you come to Miami you’ve got Cubans, Dominicans, Haitians, columbians, mexicans, columbians, venesualans, brazilians, jamacans, puerto ricans,etc. Who import Yayo(coke) through the port of MIA. This city controls most if not all of the Yayo that enters the US. This city is no joke. Shit is real down here and we are all about that Yayo. My grandfather went to jail when I was 8 and got out last year bc of it. While he was in jail someone from the clique he was workin with showed my grandfather pictures of me and my family and threatened to kill us if my grandfather ever snitched. And my best friend’s dad was one of the biggest importers of Yayo from Columbia. This is not a life anyone wants, but necessary to survive especially when most Hispanics here are illegal. I grew up in little habana Miami and I’m doin all I can not to be like my grandfather, but it’s hard. It’s a daily grind not to walk up to the corner block and make some fast money. I guess all I’m trying to say is that it is harder than people think to avoid this type of stuff. Thanks
Although, black people and hispanics make up a larger portion of those commiting violent acts, I do not think that whites males should be discounted. It is white males that are more likely to become serial killers. Although this is due to the fact there are more white people in America than black people. Still it is something to think about.:S
Early in my career i was turned down for three jobs stating the need to hire diversity candidates. Wow. guess i shouldn’t expect to get hired because i am a white male. Luckily they were able to find three diversity candidates and finally able to get a “rec” for a white male from Detroit/ to work in the Auto industry. And blacks don’t have the same resources………….please~~~~~~~
Dear 305cuba,
Don’t be an idiot. I’m also Cuban and also live in Miami. I studied hard, work hard, learned to drive, respect the laws and pay my taxes. There’s no excuse for being a drug dealer or live a life of crime. If your relatives pushed drugs and that landed them in jail, what better example do you need? How can you say that pushing “coke” is a way of life and a necessity? Be grateful to the Country that opened her arms to receive you and give back. Not working out for you here? There are 49 other States with equal opportunities to succeed for those that try hard enough; pick one and move.
Thought at times rather harsh, most of what is being said here is true. Case in point: Miami Lakes, FL. Beautiful, modern city with impeccable streets and well mannered people of all races. Then, a high concentration of poorly educated African Americans with criminal mindsets moved in. In a matter of 6 months the city was taken over. I know because I was moving to FL at the time and looking for a home in the area. There was a golf course community with million dollar mansions in there. I went to look at those homes and standing on the corner of the street, you could see every single home up for sale, at a fraction of it’s assessed price. I became suspicious and finally one of the homeowners confesed to the true reason why they were moving. Most of those folks had worked long into their lives and had retired already.
But don’t get me wrong here, I believe that *any* high concentration of likewise people is a bad recipe. Too many Hispanics, too many blacks, too many whites, too many Asians in one area are a cause for trouble. Diversity is key, it keep us on edge and competitive. And “diversity” is not being other-than-white, for pete’s sake, its being diverse in nature and equal in numbers to each other. That’s why - with all due respect to other countries - this is the greatest country on Earth. When same-kind people of all parts of the world decide to do better, they come here.
the media promotes black lifestyle as a cool/normal way of life,B.E.T.,MTV,VH1…..but they also show white people doing the same dumb shit….but all it really comes down to is the rich get richer and the poor get poorer….& it doesn’t help when they are trying to bring in all these poor middle eastern bastards,even though they have lived the same way for thousands of years,this bullshit bleeding heart country wants to help everyone else except those whom are already U.S. residents….can I get a $50,000 Visa?…and it’s only getting worse……